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prasanthcs07
April 12th, 2009 @2:29 pm  

Absolutely right , This election is an unpredictable one. Because of the presence of a third align. Many survey give more chance to UPA. But we cannot ignore the other two. but one thing is sure that if the BJP will lead ,then most of the parties belonging from LDF and other local parties will give more support to UPA. According to my point of view the chance 1.UPA
2.BJP
3. others

krishnarajcs05
April 12th, 2009 @3:05 pm  

@prashanth the not just third front there is a fourth front of SP, RJD and LJP. these are standing for a better bargain power after post poll in which no parties or alliance will get a clear majority. NCP is in UPA but is still floating around even to NDA. 3ed front will disintegrate soon after the election as most of the parties in that are not in a good position to get good number of seats. i will write about those analysis in my upcoming articles

Superb post KR….Good wrk.. Can see your effort behind this post by including the links mentioning the status of MP etc.. :)

vishnudutt ME06
April 12th, 2009 @6:28 pm  

third alternative is not a desire its a necessity……
indian national congress is now dominenetly ruling 2 states rajasthan and delhi out of 28 states + 5 union territories they are in. pathetic plight of a leading political party.bharath janatha party and Lalkrishna adwany only dreaming of the magic number 272.many of the supporting parties in former nda alliance now prepared to have the hands with third rebel….
INDIA only able to change through third alternative..its not a desire its a necessity.

krishnarajcs05
April 12th, 2009 @6:49 pm  

@vishnu 3ed alternative is a desire or necessity is not the big question here but whether they will b able to make it up is the question. of all the seats they contest be it BSP, LEFT, AIADMK, TDP, TRS they dnt hv the chance to win even upto 150 seats. then hw will the make government??. then hw will they form the government then they need the support of 4th front, UPA or the NDA. even if they get the support of 4th front(SP, RJD, LJP) they still need support of the congress. these are all calculations anything can happen but the third front as such as nw cant form the government.these are all number games. post poll alliance will decide who to rule INDIA. neither BJP, or Congress or UPA, NDA or 3ed or 4th front alone cnt make the magic figure of 272. but its democracy anyting can happen with the 1.5billion votes :)

vishnudutt ME06
April 12th, 2009 @7:09 pm  

how 3rd rebel can make up to 272?
how upa made it to 272 from the congress on 153 seats??
now 11 political parites joined with 3rd alliance.
big names in indian politics joined on…jayalalitha-aidamk, chandra babu naidu-tdp,chiranjeevi with prajarajyam,devagouda-jd secular, naveen patnayik-bjd, mayavathy- bsp joined with the allinace. sarath power -ncp is not in favour of congress also likely to hand with third rebel.
lalu- mulayam -paaswan team will be in the 3rd rabel after the results. how nda and upa formed by inc and bjp with their own limited seats..the left front will do the same..soon.

krishnarajcs05
April 12th, 2009 @7:51 pm  

@vishnu
NCP wil is in UPA and he wil swing where power is.prajarajyam is independent and is fighting against the left+TDP+TRS in Andhra. Left is likely to loose grounds in kerala and WB any way it cnt repeat 2004 results. AIADMK and BSP is powerfull but cnt mange more than 60 seats together. BJD of orissa is nt a position to win in orissa. SP, LJP & RJD is trying for their own front. i told na even if 4th front join hands with 3ed front they wnt cross 200.
BJP & congress can manage around 130-150 seats each. JD(s) is sinking ship in karnataka. thats y i said 3ed front cnt make it 272 unless congress support it. its all a number game
this is my view and as i told 1.5 million votes anyting can happen

Riji
April 12th, 2009 @7:55 pm  

Hi Krishnaraj, it’s really a wonderful effort. It becomes a passion that youngsters of your generation says they don’t like politics. I think we have to understand the difference between politics and political parties.
As you mentioned it’s difficult to make a prediction this time. Now the trend is coalition govts. So people don’t have to worry more; the policies of parties can be changed at any time :) Everyone expected a NDA govt. last time. But Congress made a remarkable come back. Now their situation is even better….no real issues against them except the National security.
I don’t mind who comes in to power this time. But eager to see as many as young bloods representing their constituency in the Parliament.
Thank Krishnaraj for opening a discussion like this.

krishnarajcs05
April 12th, 2009 @8:05 pm  

@riji sir
thank u sir.

vishnudutt ME06
April 12th, 2009 @8:05 pm  

i dont think so…aidamk last year cant able to open their account. but the conditions in tamil nadu is always controversial.on situation backgrounds its aidamks turn a white wash is possible against dmk.
3rd alliance has proved 4 times in indian history that they can make a government..lasted only short while. Devagauda ruled twice. i k Gujral once, and chandrasekhar once with out inc and bjp s hold . samja vady party is now not in hands with 3rd rebel just in corporation with kalyan singh in utar pradesh to defeat bsp which is in 3rd rebel. that is sp also in threat of white wash of bsp in up. the same condition in andhra and orissa with p[rajarajyam and bjd. we can see the results soon

krishnarajcs05
April 12th, 2009 @8:23 pm  

@vishnu
prajarajyam is nt in 3ed front. BJD is having anti-incumbency in orissa. white was is nt possible. when ever 3ed front came it came with the support of either BJP or congress just check it out. Aiadmk can maximum get 30/40 seats even if it gets 40 seats 3ed front cnt make it up to 150. UP can b the difference with 80 seats but here a white wash like in the legislative asseby by BSP is not possible bcos last time the margins were so narrow and remember its a 4-6 party fight in UP. BSP, SP, BJP, Congress, RLD all has its big guns fighting here and there is no national level issue to swing the balance to any side although BSP faces anti-incumbency neither SP or BSP can make a clean sweep here. the political scenario in india is different frm th past. so we hv to wait and c

HARIPRAKASH
April 12th, 2009 @8:37 pm  

Hi Krishnaraj
I am very happy to see that youngsters like you are so keen and analytic in todays politics.But a major portion of youth as u said is not aware of these matters in which the future of India is decided.That future is not politics.It includes our economy, foreign policies,internal security,unemployment,industry …countless……If a person is away from political thoughts means he is not interested in creativity.If they feel that existing front cant do anything ,look out for a better alternative.I strongly feel time has come to think for a better alternative which should arise from ignited minds.

arjuncs07
April 12th, 2009 @8:39 pm  

Superb Post……@ the right time…..Election News…Election Wars b/w parties…..Election !! Election !! Everywhere….Now its in our Vosree too…..Nice effort Krishnaraj chetta……..Keep Posting……

Renish Ramanan
April 12th, 2009 @8:39 pm  

Super post my dear friend
I have only little knowledge in politics, but according to my point of view the chance is to BJP but i think some times the chance can be shift to UDF as Riji sir says they have a secure position.

vishnudutt ME06
April 12th, 2009 @8:41 pm  

uttar pradesh’ situation is different from last time. now mayavathy ruling vidhan sabha with 215 seats out of 400.last time won 4 bye elections against sp. bsp competing in more than 200 seats this time. cpim in 69 seats tdp in 33 seats aidamk in 33 seats jd utd+ secular in 116 seats,bjd in12 seats,rsp+cpi+forward block in52 seats.and more n more in 3rd rebel, if they can make a maximum of their own ..india will be in safe hands of 3rd rebel.

krishnarajcs05
April 12th, 2009 @9:58 pm  

UP situation has changed i agree. as i told mayawathi won with narrow margin in many constituency in vidhan sabha, so v cnt predict it in case of lok sabha as these narow margins can favour any one as 6-7 vidhan sabha constituency make up 1 loksabha constituency. more over BSP faces Anti-incurbency. even if she contest 200seats she can eat sme votes of other party bt may nt able to win. left is nt in a postion to even retain the present seats. AIADMK can shift its plate as v hv seen in past so at present the 3ed front may nt be able make much gain but ofcourse can increase its bargain power.

NGeN
April 12th, 2009 @11:37 pm  

good work.Well detailed explanations :) .

Party ethayalum rajyam nannayal mathiarunnu…..

by the way
you missed BSP … UP is the main arena which might decide the future of 3rd alliance.And BSP has an important role there.

krishnarajcs05
April 13th, 2009 @7:23 am  

@ngen
am yet to complete the post
NDA and 3ed front wil b covered today

sujith
April 13th, 2009 @8:06 am  

Nice post…
its clear that u did sme gud research..

PM candidate of UPA is Dr manmohan Singh.he is commonly accepted by the current parties in UPA.Sharad pawar is floating only due to that fact.Actually he culd become the PM of INDIA instead of Dr Manmohan Singh,if he dint left congress.

and u forget to mention one party from kerala which is in UPA.Kerala Congress (M) competing from kottayam

and what about National conference in jammu & kashmir??they are ruling there with the support of congress now..i think they are also the part of UPA now.

sujith
April 13th, 2009 @8:17 am  

@vishnu’s first comment

Congress is now ruling Andhra pradesh,Arunachal pradesh,Pondichery and haryana along with delhi and rajasthan.
Congress chief ministers are there in maharashtra,goa,Assam,Manipur,mizoram

Also they are supporting omar abdulla’s NC in jammu and kashmir,karunanidhi in tamilnadu.

They are the main opposition in karnataka,madhyapradesh,gujarat,chattisgad,punjab etc..

so i dnt agree with ur first statement “pathetic plight”

sujith
April 13th, 2009 @8:19 am  

One more thing..the prepoll alliance indicates that there will be a hung government at the centre after this elections.i dont think that is gud for the development of india..if such a condition comes, we may be seeing many more vote for cash scandals

krishnarajcs05
April 13th, 2009 @9:56 am  

@sujith
Manmohan singh is the PM candidate of congress. UPA consists of NCP, RJD, SP, LJP, DMK, JMM etc in which RJD, LJP, NCP, SP, DMK constitute the main parties in which only DMK accepted Manmohan sing’s PM candidature. NCP is floating and SP, LJP, RJD has its own 4th front. then hw can Manmohan singh b the accepted PM candidate of UPA??
i do agree wit sujith the fact that Coalition govt is not for our good, but regional politics wil play its role for sure and v hv to go with that. only thing v can wish is thet at least the leading coalition party must have MPs around 180-200 atleast for the government to b stable
congress has states ruled by them but it is just bcos of the anti BJP vote they won ( bcos of the communal image BJP carries). congress has no major credits to boast upon in the winning in theses states but i do agree the UPA govt had done nothing wrong in the 5 years in power and thats y anti-incumbency is nt there when v look nation wide.but i dnt feel they have done enough to boast upon.

SREERAJ R CS6
April 13th, 2009 @10:53 am  

krishnaraj cheta,it’s realy good post…as it is the hot time of election,I
would like to tell some thing from my point of view.Iam now in a position to vote to a political party,but the thing is that i dont believe in any particular party,bcoz a party can hold both sorts of rulers,so we voters should look not the party while voting but the person who is able to lead our country to its peak……

vishnudutt ME06
April 13th, 2009 @2:27 pm  

sujith chetta,
i mean about single handed dominance of congress.manipur , mizoram,pondicherry is not dominent areas of congress,they have the assembly seats in total of 110-115 and inc secured to rule these areas in short margins, aidamk s hand in pondicherry.Assam , maharashtra, adhra ministry is not by congress itself.only hat -trick delhi and rajasthan 96/199 are congress on supreme areas.
pathetism means, former rigid INC last time too in a changing favourable situations competed in 400 lok- sabha seats can only able to make up to 145.Notin an area equal to half of they competed. But al the left parties are proving an improvemnt from past will be in a 3rd rebel soon.

abt Sarath pawar desire to be a PM is goin to be invain.NCP usually gains single digited seats, so it should not please congress .so he should sheltered on 3rd rebel to get a top position in ministry.
I think the only possibility for congress to be in ministry is to support the “3RD ALTERNATIVE”

krishnarajcs05
April 13th, 2009 @8:36 pm  

@vishnu
i partialy agree wit u. if 3ed front has to form govt congress must support but its nt the only option 4 congress.if congress has a gud number of seats they can get the support frm 3ed front or any of the parties breaking away frm 3ed front.
congress and 3ed is nt the only contestant. BJP and NDA they have a fair chance dnt rule them out

vishnudutt ME06
April 13th, 2009 @8:49 pm  

abt MR.HARIPRAKASH sir’ comment, iam very pleased about his comment.His words absolutely showing that he is ad efinite thinker,demanding an alternative.i think demand of thinkers like u should be in line next month.

krishnaraj chetta,i like to take this debate back to kerala, as to our son-soil. how about the situation u thinks about in kerala who will dominate? iam sure its still with left.magic of 11 will surely LDF in kerala

Kenney
April 14th, 2009 @6:20 am  

I think Congress is the best party for India. Its not a very good party, but it is the only party that we can rely right now. BJP is a bunch of domestic terrorists. The third front is a bunch of jokers.

krishnarajcs05
April 14th, 2009 @9:41 am  

@vishnu
in kerala i dnt think Left has a good chance. firstly the political land scape of kerala there is a certain sure votes for each party and the left has a pretty good number in this sure votes. but this number is cmparitively smallto win an election. say the total sure vote for all parties is just 30-40% off total votes. so the other 60-70% votes decide who wins the election. this major vote share has influence of the caste, religion, governance, local issues etc. cast and religious votes does play a major role in this. nw the PDP having hold in sme pocket of kollam pathanamtitta and sme places in north. this brings the anti Muslim league votes among muslims to LEFT (muslims constitute 30% of keralites)but this will make other anti-muslim caste votes to UDF. pinna SNDP and sme Christian communities has given suport to LDF this wil help the LDF in southern Kerala and costal kerala and eranakulam but this also means there is a chance for othere communites to vote against the LDF in other parts. thes votes called as “rashtriya adi orukukal” will make the difference between winning and loosing. pinna there is an anti-incurbancy factor, development issues the wind towards UPA in national level etc tat can affect the prospects of the LDF.then the dissatisfaction of CPI, JD(s), RSP and the internal crises of the CPI(m )will take its toll in this election.
UDF also has sme disadvantages. central help was not there, Mullapaeriyar issue, railways, rice, farmers relief, agriculture and plantation crops issues and more.
so its hard to predict still the UDF has an upper hand this time. it will not b a wash out still UDF may get clear majority in many places and if LDF win sme places that will b of narrow margin. no other parties BJP, BSP or NCP will will any seats but they wil catch sme votes especially BSP and NCp can eat sme bases OF UDF and LDF for eg BSP can take a share of votes f LDF and UDF in Trivandrum also NCP can take Votes frm LDF and UDF in vayanad
these are just my view point in all means. am nt telling smething biased :)

krishnarajcs05
April 14th, 2009 @11:08 pm  

@sreraj
persons should b taken in account but the political party also must b given importance to bcos the person represent a political party, its ideology so the person actualy does wat his party says and the party is wat makes the rule and nt just that person. i agree for that particular region the person matters but for the nation party matters more.

vishnudutt ME06
April 15th, 2009 @8:45 pm  

krihna raj chetta, ur absolutely right…..the contestant represents a party,he only acts acording to his party’s commands.

kerala, as like ur thougts a lot of factors are in charge , but again if luk back to past from 1957 to 2009,if any one in kerala just not vote to LDF is a piece of suiciding,
1. Land reform act of 1957
2.only state in india giving pension to farmers.
3.primary education to all.
4. janakiyasootrana-1995

just the greatest among the LDF devalopements.
kerala is devolped on to KERALA through left hands.

krishnarajcs05
May 18th, 2009 @10:07 pm  

at last results are out. UPA wins clearly

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